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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189139282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Harrison Bachrach <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189139282">(Feb 26 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is this Zulip an appropriate place for general questions from a Rust beginner? Or should that go in the Discord?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189140237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yerkebulan Tulibergenov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189140237">(Feb 26 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Discord is probably a better place, if your questions are just general in nature.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189159365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189159365">(Feb 26 2020 at 21:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="267028">@Harrison Bachrach</span> I believe you can ask a question here if it's related to rust / the rust project in some way. Here's our documentation on what is considered appropriate conversation.</p>
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<p>Appropriate conversation</p>
<p>In most streams, you should try to keep conversations related to team business. The #general stream is a bit broader, but even there, discussions should be closely related to Rust (though may not relate to projects of any particular team). All channels are expected to be used for discussions related to the Rust project, though; discussions of (for example) wildlife or sightseeing are not appropriate.</p>
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<p><a href="https://forge.rust-lang.org/chat/zulip.html#appropriate-conversation" target="_blank" title="https://forge.rust-lang.org/chat/zulip.html#appropriate-conversation">https://forge.rust-lang.org/chat/zulip.html#appropriate-conversation</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189160166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189160166">(Feb 26 2020 at 21:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Appropriate, sure. As high-traffic and visibility as Discord, probably not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189160201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189160201">(Feb 26 2020 at 21:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>(as you can see you got 3 responses in nearly that many hours...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189164660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Harrison Bachrach <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189164660">(Feb 26 2020 at 22:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Gotcha--so the Zulip is more focused on people working <em>on</em> Rust itself? As opposed to people working <em>with</em> rust?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189165878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189165878">(Feb 26 2020 at 22:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes that's the general split of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189165925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189165925">(Feb 26 2020 at 22:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>even the official Rust Discord is mostly for people working on Rust rather than with Rust.</p>
<p>for working <em>with</em> Rust you probably want the Rust Community Discord</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/189246480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#189246480">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>The <code>#rust-usage</code> and <code>#beginners</code> Discord channels seem to be people working with Rust.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190421302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190421302">(Mar 12 2020 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>So are all teams migrating to Zulip now? Or is it by-team? Is this because of some of Zulip features that were missing in Discord?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190421609" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190421609">(Mar 12 2020 at 17:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>By team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190421635" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190421635">(Mar 12 2020 at 17:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>and some teams are sorta in both places</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190423547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190423547">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="270883">@Michal Siedlaczek</span> It is per team. Personally Zulip has a lot more features than Discord for getting Rust work done. (Though it's not perfect, there some things that still easier on Discord)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190423890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190423890">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> Thanks, I noticed most of l10n languages created streams here, should we follow suit with polish, you think? I guess it makes sense since the main team stream is here, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190423962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190423962">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="270883">@Michal Siedlaczek</span> I'll ask the admins to make a polish stream.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190424036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190424036">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>sweet, thanks.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190424302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190424302">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>One of the main benefits of Zulip is you can email notifications. Which makes easier for people who don't want to keep extra chat clients open to be involved.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190424370" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190424370">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, that was my first thought when I found out about this, "yet another chat app" :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190424453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190424453">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I haven't even heard of Zulip before so I'm curious to see what it's about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425077">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="270883">@Michal Siedlaczek</span> pretty sure you're gonna love the threading system :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425155">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I personally find it quite unergonomic to split threads in Zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425416" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425416">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> I guess no such thing as perfect solution; but I gotta say that what I like immediately is this "All messages" view, and shortcuts capabilities seem to be much more powerful than Discord's</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425583" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425583">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>To sum up how I feel about Zulip: It doesn't feel designed by interaction designers; rather, it feels more like how backend hackers would do it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425602">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>But there are functionalities that you might only have on Discord, such as pinned messages or voice chats. I'm not sure they are used much, but maybe some teams can't go without it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425674" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425674">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Discord just feels more polished and has better UX, even if it doesn't have some features some would want here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425773" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425773">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Discord is for-profit, though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425842" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425842">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>And there have been few vehement articles regarding privacy too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425882">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="126931">centril</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190425674" title="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190425674">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Discord just feels more polished and has better UX, even if it doesn't have some features some would want here.</p>
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<p>agreed on all you have said, but still the benefits of Zulip are better IMO than the ones on Discord</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425893" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425893">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I literally can't use Discord</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190425975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190425975">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>can't follow it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426065">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="255061">@LeSeulArtichaut</span>  Does that really matter? GitHub is for profit. Rust is used for things I consider anti-social (e.g., crypto-currency, ...).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426405">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span></p>
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<p>Does that really matter?</p>
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<p>I think everyone has a different opinion on this. I was just thinking about what were the pros and cons of Discord.</p>
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<p>Rust is used for things I consider anti-social (e.g., crypto-currency, ...)</p>
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<p>Rust is meant to do anything C can do, right? Including... things we consider anti-social <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426419">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Put simply, <em>"There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism"</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426442">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>That doesn't mean you should do nothing or always take the unethical choice.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426466" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426466">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>We always come back to this. Capitalism.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426513">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anyway we should probably stop there before it goes into politics stuff <span aria-label="big smile" class="emoji emoji-1f604" role="img" title="big smile">:big_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426515">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think chat platforms matters in ways GitHub does not, one being that you can't move your chat infrastructure between platforms..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426572">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span>  of course; that's not the implication, but I don't think "don't use Discord" is a strategic choice in my struggle to overthrow capitalism... <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426589" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426589">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="255061">LeSeulArtichaut</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190426513" title="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190426513">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Anyway we should probably stop there before it goes into politics stuff <span aria-label="big smile" class="emoji emoji-1f604" role="img" title="big smile">:big_smile:</span></p>
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<p>Too late... :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426624" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426624">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Seriously though, let's stop ^,-</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426662">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>Or hide</em><br>
<em>Or go back to trying to understand <code>rustc_infer</code>, AKA hitting your head against a wall</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426784">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="219696">XAMPPRocky</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190426515" title="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190426515">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I do think chat platforms matters in ways GitHub does not, one being that you can't move your chat infrastructure between platforms..</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Without talking about politics...<br>
...I don't really buy that. It has been way easier to move between chat platforms than it would be to move to e.g., GitLab or something.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190426844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190426844">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Our repo organization is much more deeply integrated in tooling, search history, etc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190427043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190427043">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>To be clear I'm not saying any infra change is easy.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190428279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190428279">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is Zulip self-hosted?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190428367" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190428367">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="270883">@Michal Siedlaczek</span> It can be. Our instance is hosted by the Zulip devs.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190428403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190428403">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span>  gotcha.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190428619" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190428619">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="270883">@Michal Siedlaczek</span> If you do find any bugs or things you'd want to improve I recommend filing an issue on GitHub, the devs are pretty responsive. <a href="https://github.com/zulip/zulip" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/zulip/zulip">https://github.com/zulip/zulip</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190429039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Michal Siedlaczek <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190429039">(Mar 12 2020 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> thanks, will do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190596898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ben <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190596898">(Mar 14 2020 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm interested in contributing to the project in a way that relates to a personal project I've been working on. It's a BinHeap priority queue that allows for selection of specific entries by ID for modification (such as priority change, removal, etc) in HashMap lookup time and other performance tweaks. I've submitted an issue to the <code>async-rs</code> projects <code>futures-timer</code> repo, and waiting to hear back. Also going to plug away at <code>priority_queue</code> crate.</p>
<p>Can anyone think of anywhere in the rust project itself that might be friendly to such a thing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190598675" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pachi <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190598675">(Mar 14 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="271018">@Ben</span> those are mainly in the realm of the <a class="stream" data-stream-id="219381" href="/#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs">#t-libs</a> and <a class="stream" data-stream-id="187312" href="/#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations">#wg-async-foundations</a> team and working group. You should get in contact with them. All help is always very welcome (though people may be busy and response time may depend on their free time)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190599040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ben <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190599040">(Mar 14 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>ty :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190640898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190640898">(Mar 15 2020 at 10:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="126931">centril</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190425674" title="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/190425674">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Discord just feels more polished and has better UX, even if it doesn't have some features some would want here.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>broken email notifications, way too tiny default size (given the bad contrast between text and background), annoying "top bar ads" after clearing local storage, an entire lack of proper "stream/channel" management, a somewhat awkward UI flow for doing searches...<br>
I could list quite a lot of things that are bad about discord's UX. I agree that Zulip's is much closer to "coder's UI", and of course being a coder I am biased towards that, but Discord has caused me more UX trouble than literally any other chat system I never used. That's anecdotal evidence, sure, but still.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190745283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190745283">(Mar 16 2020 at 16:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have never relied on email notifications for Discord, nor would I ever. Their email system is terrible. Ya just gotta open the app in a browser tab and check it once a day, or have it on your phone and get a push notification that way.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190750485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190750485">(Mar 16 2020 at 16:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224471">@Lokathor</span> I don't even think you can enable email notifications in discord anymore.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/190750543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#190750543">(Mar 16 2020 at 16:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>All the more reason to not rely on them ;3</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202102983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vladimir66R <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202102983">(Jun 26 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I apologize, maybe I was looking badly. I do calculations with large numbers, so 2_f64.powf (64.0) -1.0 = 18446744073709552000 This is an incorrect result. How to solve this problem?<br>
There is the latest current version (1.44.1).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202104308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202104308">(Jun 26 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>hey <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span> can you share a playground link? <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="315784">@Vladimir66R</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202106735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202106735">(Jun 26 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>If you want integers, there's up to <code>u128</code>, otherwise there are a couple of big integer crates. There's also a crate with MPFR bindings, I think, if you want floating point.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202106763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> bjorn3 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202106763">(Jun 26 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="315784">@Vladimir66R</span> This seems to be a rounding error.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202111679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202111679">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>No, he's right. The correct result for 2^64.0 can be represented trivially exactly with an <code>f64</code>. It's <code>18446744073709551616</code>.<br>
For some reason though, this does not print that number: <code>2.0_powi(64)</code>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202111915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202111915">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&amp;mode=release&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=135dd42d4868933706a79d255a6eaabf">https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&amp;mode=release&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=135dd42d4868933706a79d255a6eaabf</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112343">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&amp;mode=release&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=168de542a4d5a87f75c73decbddc9323">https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&amp;mode=release&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=168de542a4d5a87f75c73decbddc9323</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112414">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Indeed.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112481" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112481">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>What if it's the printing code? I can't imagine the value not being correct in memory..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112554">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://stackoverflow.com/a/1848953">https://stackoverflow.com/a/1848953</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112701">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&amp;mode=release&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=e40690142af14c5cd4048c188d8d41fd">https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&amp;mode=release&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=e40690142af14c5cd4048c188d8d41fd</a><br>
<code>0</code>, as expected.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112759">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>It doesn't matter that 53-bit is the precision, 2^64 is _still_ exact</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202112969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202112969">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Rust has IEEE floating point so 2^64 has exponent bits of <code>bias + 65</code> and mantissa of 0.<br>
There is no inexactness in its computation either.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202113002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202113002">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which is precisely what debugging it as bytes gives:<br>
<a href="https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&amp;mode=debug&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=caac2fffa36e14072b1017ce118734d8">https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&amp;mode=debug&amp;edition=2018&amp;gist=caac2fffa36e14072b1017ce118734d8</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202113086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202113086">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="229913">HeroicKatora</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions/near/202112759">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>It doesn't matter that 53-bit is the precision, 2^64 is _still_ exact</p>
</blockquote>
<p>D'oh, right, it's base 2.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202113255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202113255">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does <code>std</code>'s grisu implementation have an off-by-one in a digit count or something?<br>
I almost feel like betting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202114088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202114088">(Jun 26 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, I'll surely report it as a bug...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202117145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Gary Guo <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202117145">(Jun 26 2020 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>The printing is correct, because <code>18446744073709552000.==18446744073709551616.</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202118925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> HeroicKatora <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202118925">(Jun 26 2020 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Of course, <em>facepalm</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202155376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202155376">(Jun 26 2020 at 23:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>There was an issue filled about this in fairly recent past (i.e. within past 2 years or so)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/202155384" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#202155384">(Jun 26 2020 at 23:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I remember it clearly because it went pretty similarly to this thread</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211084749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew Seymour <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211084749">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Having a weird issue (that's probably me); </p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>fn handler(req: Request&lt;Body&gt;, dbconn: arangors::database::Database&lt;arangors::GenericConnection&lt;arangors::client::reqwest::ReqwestClient&gt;&gt;)
</code></pre></div>


<p>Compiler tells me that <code>could not find </code>reqwest<code> in </code>client`` but, it definitely exists; <a href="https://docs.rs/arangors/0.4.3/arangors/client/reqwest/struct.ReqwestClient.html">https://docs.rs/arangors/0.4.3/arangors/client/reqwest/struct.ReqwestClient.html</a></p>
<p>What am I doing wrong?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211084808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211084808">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>are you sure you're using 0.4.3 locally?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211084848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211084848">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>the other possibility is you've shadowed <code>client</code> locally</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211084861" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew Seymour <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211084861">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, when I click through it shows arangors-0.4.3 as a cache and I have that in the Cargo.toml</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211084941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew Seymour <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211084941">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's interesting, I'm not seeing another use of client in my rust code but, that's a good shout</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211085021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew Seymour <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211085021">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:48)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code> --&gt; src/lib.rs:8:125
  |
8 | ...rangors::GenericConnection&lt;arangors::client::reqwest::ReqwestClient&gt;&gt;) -&gt; Result&lt;Response&lt;Body&gt;, hyper::Error&gt; {
  |                                                 ^^^^^^^ could not find `reqwest` in `client`
</code></pre></div>


<p>It's fully pathed so - surely it's looking within <code>arangors::client</code> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211085204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Noah Lev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211085204">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps try posting on <a href="http://users.rust-lang.org">users.rust-lang.org</a>? They may be able to help you.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211085458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211085458">(Sep 24 2020 at 02:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are you sure you have the correct features enabled? <a href="https://docs.rs/arangors/0.4.3/src/arangors/client/mod.rs.html#35">https://docs.rs/arangors/0.4.3/src/arangors/client/mod.rs.html#35</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211085676" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew Seymour <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211085676">(Sep 24 2020 at 03:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah yes, looks like I hadn't correctly defined the feature - I think the docs mentioning reqwest was default assumed I didn't need to do anything - thanks :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/211094891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew Seymour <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#211094891">(Sep 24 2020 at 06:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>In a block like;</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>async move {
            Ok::&lt;_, Error&gt;(service_fn(move |req| {
                let dbconn = conn.db(&quot;db&quot;).await.unwrap();
                function::handler(req, dbconn)
            }))
        }
</code></pre></div>


<p>I get that <code>conn.db</code> is <code>only allowed inside 'async' functions and blocks</code> - I'm really not sure how to make this work as moving it elsewhere says it doesn't implement the copy trait (which is true) but it does implement clone, which throws the same warning about implementing copy - any thoughts? I don't think many people have used arangors with hyper</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/227756114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> NBot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#227756114">(Feb 25 2021 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi - what would be the proper topic or place to ask a question about generated assembly by LLVM ? Is Zulip even right place to ask such questions ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/general%20questions/near/227843192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Noah Lev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/general.20questions.html#227843192">(Feb 25 2021 at 21:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>You can ask in <a class="stream" data-stream-id="122651" href="/#narrow/stream/122651-general">#general</a> or <a class="stream" data-stream-id="131828" href="/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler">#t-compiler</a>, but don't worry about posting in the wrong place; we can always move it.</p>



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